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Re: Accurate edge detection?

by aruzinsky <aruzinsky@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 22, 2008 at 08:59 AM

On Jul 22, 8:04=A0am, slus...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>
> Thank you for your interest and offer to review some sample images.
> Unfortunately, our concern is not on the software or algorithmic side,
> but on the optical side. =A0As I mentioned in my original post:
>
> "Does anyone have references they can point to (or their own
> pesuasive
> arguments) that describe where the true edge location should be
> relative to the edge image function?"
>

I already did.  What is wrong with you?

>
> I also mentioned that I originally posted to sci.optics, then added
> sci.image.processing because I thought the folks here might be more
> aware of relavent references. =A0The (apparently) commonly held belief
> that the maximum slope of the edge image, or the midpoint between the
> maximum and minimum grey level values of the edge image corresponds to
> the true edge location seems unmotivated or unsup****ted to me, even
> though it "feels" like common sense. =A0

That is an algorithm, albeit a really stupid one that is not common
sense, so don't tell me that you are not interest in algorithms.
Furthermore, that is not a commonly held belief, e.g., it is common
knowledge that shock filters sharpen an edge around the inflection
point (the inflection point is preserved) and nobody, I know of,
pretends that shock filtering is deconvolution.

> We have also performed bench
> experiments that suggest that neither the max. slope nor the grey
> level midpoint corresponds to the true edge, with errors being in the
> range of 0.2 to 0.45 pixels in the experimental set up we used.

I hope my tax money didn't fund that busy work.

>=A0We
> are continuing our own investigation, but I have to believe that
> someone has already done this at some time and published their
> results. =A0I'd love to find out that our own efforts at inventing the
> wheel are unecessary. :-)
>

I already gave you a reference to a relatively simple algorithm that
might do better than 0.2 pixels.   It would be foolish not to try it.
 




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sluster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-17 10:54:52 
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"Science.Medical.Ima  2008-07-17 13:14:37 
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aruzinsky <aruzinsky@[  2008-07-18 09:19:33 
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sluster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-18 13:45:11 
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sluster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-18 19:14:32 
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"Science.Medical.Ima  2008-07-18 22:39:53 
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"Science.Medical.Ima  2008-07-20 13:24:34 
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aruzinsky <aruzinsky@[  2008-07-20 16:24:05 
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Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-07-23 10:16:36 
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"Science.Medical.Ima  2008-07-21 11:13:48 
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Andrew_M <mats@[EMAIL   2008-07-22 02:19:28 
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sluster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-22 07:04:38 
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aruzinsky <aruzinsky@[  2008-07-22 08:59:01 
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Andrew_M <mats@[EMAIL   2008-07-22 15:02:34 
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aruzinsky <aruzinsky@[  2008-07-23 07:57:04 
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Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-07-24 10:43:19 
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Steve Eddins <Steve.Ed  2008-07-24 09:02:55 
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illywhacker <illywacke  2008-07-23 09:01:25 
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sluster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-23 13:48:12 
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sluster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-23 14:12:49 
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Andrew_M <mats@[EMAIL   2008-07-23 21:11:27 
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sluster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-23 21:17:35 
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aruzinsky <aruzinsky@[  2008-07-24 08:27:48 
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aruzinsky <aruzinsky@[  2008-07-24 09:55:05 
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sluster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-24 14:04:53 
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aruzinsky <aruzinsky@[  2008-07-25 08:00:31 
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illywhacker <illywacke  2008-07-25 11:15:05 
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sluster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-26 12:20:25 
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Andrew_M <mats@[EMAIL   2008-07-26 14:55:02 
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Andrew_M <mats@[EMAIL   2008-07-26 23:39:28 
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illywhacker <illywacke  2008-07-29 01:24:14 
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Andrew_M <mats@[EMAIL   2008-07-29 02:55:07 
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illywhacker <illywacke  2008-07-29 05:18:37 
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illywhacker <illywacke  2008-07-29 05:22:34 
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Andrew_M <mats@[EMAIL   2008-07-30 00:35:47 
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illywhacker <illywacke  2008-07-30 06:44:56 
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Andrew_M <mats@[EMAIL   2008-07-30 12:39:46 
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illywhacker <illywacke  2008-07-31 09:19:43 
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Andrew_M <mats@[EMAIL   2008-07-31 16:51:58 
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illywhacker <illywacke  2008-07-31 22:48:34 
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Andrew_M <mats@[EMAIL   2008-08-01 01:41:06 
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aruzinsky <aruzinsky@[  2008-08-01 09:22:37 
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Andrew_M <mats@[EMAIL   2008-08-02 01:32:09 
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illywhacker <illywacke  2008-08-02 09:37:47 
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illywhacker <illywacke  2008-08-02 09:39:37 
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aruzinsky <aruzinsky@[  2008-08-02 09:57:08 
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aruzinsky <aruzinsky@[  2008-08-02 10:20:40 
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illywhacker <illywacke  2008-08-02 10:25:25 
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aruzinsky <aruzinsky@[  2008-08-02 11:45:27 
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Andrew_M <mats@[EMAIL   2008-08-02 12:21:56 
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Andrew_M <mats@[EMAIL   2008-08-02 12:42:33 
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illywhacker <illywacke  2008-08-02 14:18:54 
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aruzinsky <aruzinsky@[  2008-08-03 10:25:11 
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illywhacker <illywacke  2008-08-03 10:30:51 
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aruzinsky <aruzinsky@[  2008-08-03 13:27:21 
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sluster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-08-04 08:45:06 
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aruzinsky <aruzinsky@[  2008-08-04 10:06:59 
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Andrew_M <mats@[EMAIL   2008-08-04 13:29:21 
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illywhacker <illywacke  2008-08-13 09:51:30 
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illywhacker <illywacke  2008-08-13 10:02:27 

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