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Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?

by dorayme <doraymeRidThis@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 8, 2008 at 11:40 AM

In article <noemailhere-477ACE.17244107052008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 The NewGuy <noemailhere@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> > > if you use Opera there is no text spilling anywhere. 
> > 
> > At the cost of text getting out of focus. 
> 
> How in the world does text get "out of focus"?  In Opera my text is 
> always razor sharp at 1680x1050.  Please explain.
>

If you zoom a picture up from its native px size, it will soon be 
noticeably fuzzier. We were at some point in the thread talking pictures 
of text not html text. So what I am saying certainly applies to this. If 
you are not following this part, let me know and I will explain more.

OK, now lets look at proper html text, (not specified in pixel 
font-sizes - to avoid a side issue to do with Windows Internet 
Explorer). Not gifs, not jpgs or pngs but simply text typed into html 
elements.

Most good browsers allow one to make the text bigger or smaller to suit 
oneself. Either on a tactical basis, page to page and using menu and/or 
keyboard commands or on a more global basis via preference settings or 
user stylesheets. These latter allow a user to avoid suffering 
impossibly small fonts as well as slightly uncomfortable ones. The 
browser simply overrides any font style settings of the author of the 
site and substitutes the user's preferred. A pretty wholesome thing, I 
hope you will agree.

Take a look at http://store.apple.com/us
(to take a Mac example) in 
Safari 2 or any browser that does not zoom the page but just zooms the 
text. The text stays crisp no matter how big it gets. Never mind that 
some of the text disappears or the design breaks (*that* is another 
matter entirely). It stays crips because the browser draws up real text 
from your fonts on your machine and uses the vector type maths to do so. 
That is the magic of real fonts, they can be scaled and remain crispier 
than chips.

Now look at it in Opera and zoom it up and it gets blurry. There is 
nothing to explain, it gets blurry and it does so in pretty well the 
same way as pics do when blown up beyond their native pxs. There is no 
special font maths involved here. The font is treated as just a set of 
pxs and is enlarged by a crude(r) browser algorithm to be bigger. The 
blur is then the general blur that results from machines not knowing 
what is im****tant and what not when blowing up pics. Even a classy image 
program like Photoshop does poorly when blowing up a pic, browsers are 
not any better.

Roughly this.

-- 
dorayme
 




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Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
AES <siegman@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-02 10:37:57 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
"Steve W. Jackson&qu  2008-05-02 12:47:39 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
Jolly Roger <jollyroge  2008-05-02 13:21:26 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
dorayme <doraymeRidThi  2008-05-03 13:01:29 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
Lewis <g.kreme@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 12:04:27 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
dorayme <doraymeRidThi  2008-05-06 10:59:21 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
Matthew Lybanon <lyban  2008-05-06 08:10:00 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
The NewGuy <noemailher  2008-05-06 12:11:13 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
dorayme <doraymeRidThi  2008-05-07 08:28:16 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
The NewGuy <noemailher  2008-05-06 19:25:29 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
dorayme <doraymeRidThi  2008-05-07 10:45:14 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
The NewGuy <noemailher  2008-05-07 17:24:42 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
dorayme <doraymeRidThi  2008-05-08 11:40:15 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
dorayme <doraymeRidThi  2008-05-08 11:55:07 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
The NewGuy <noemailher  2008-05-07 21:37:53 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
dorayme <doraymeRidThi  2008-05-08 13:37:43 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
The NewGuy <noemailher  2008-05-08 18:03:31 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
dorayme <doraymeRidThi  2008-05-09 12:05:28 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
dorayme <doraymeRidThi  2008-05-07 08:27:41 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
Lewis <g.kreme@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 11:54:13 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
Gregory Weston <uce@[E  2008-05-07 15:24:41 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
Lewis <g.kreme@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 21:37:15 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
dorayme <doraymeRidThi  2008-05-08 14:42:47 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
Lewis <g.kreme@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 04:06:18 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
dorayme <doraymeRidThi  2008-05-08 20:38:48 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
Lewis <g.kreme@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 11:06:42 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
dorayme <doraymeRidThi  2008-05-10 12:31:36 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
Gregory Weston <uce@[E  2008-05-08 08:27:44 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
Lewis <g.kreme@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 11:27:56 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
dorayme <doraymeRidThi  2008-05-08 09:53:07 
Re: Magnifying JPEGs viewed in Safari?
Gregory Weston <uce@[E  2008-05-02 14:23:15 

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