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Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.

by Michael Vilain <vilain@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 26, 2007 at 09:18 PM

In article <260620072031189269%dave@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 Dave Balderstone <dave@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> In article <200706262116417987-jollyroger@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Jolly Roger
> <jollyroger@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> > On 2007-06-26 18:43:51 -0500, drdagon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 said:
> > 
> > >> Corel?  EEEWWW...  You're kidding right?  What a piece of crap!
> > > 
> > > Which seems to be the opinion of most graphic artists I've met
> > > and many printshops I've dealt with.
> > 
> > You're spot on.  I worked in professional graphic arts and pre-press
in 
> > print shops for 9 years.  Corel gets no respect because it's crap, and

> > you have to *earn* respect from professionals who depend on making a 
> > living using graphics software.  Adobe has earned it, and raises the 
> > bar every year.
> 
> I've been in the graphics/prepress/publi****ng industry for nearly 30
> years. No, really. Thirty years. And that doesn't count hand setting
> type in Grade 9 graphics shop.
> 
> I've seen brilliant work that ripped seamlessly done in CorelDraw. I've
> seen crap done in CorelDraw.
> 
> I've seen brilliant work that ripped seamlessly done in FreeHand. I've
> seen crap done in FreeHand.
> 
> I've seen brilliant work that ripped seamlessly done in Illustrator.
> I've seen crap done in Illustrator.
> 
> I've seen brilliant work that ripped seamlessly done in InDesign. I've
> seen crap done in InDesign.
> 
> I could tell you all kinds of stories, like...
> 
> The time a designer upgraded Corel in the middle of the job and all the
> white type got set to overprint. $2500 worth of film had to rerun, and
> we had to fight him for payment.
> 
> The time we ripped an Illustrator file for TWENTY-SEVEN HOURS, got a
> cyan plate, and it was wrong. Didn't get paid for that one.
> 
> The designer I worked for who regularly built absolutely gorgeous
> Freehand files that nobody in the entire Vancouver BC area could rip to
> film.
> 
> The Xpress file bounced out of my shop because the file contained three
> different blacks. 100K. 100C, 100M, 100Y, and 100C, 100M, 100Y, 100K.
> Type within 1/16th inch of the trim. Yellow type on black set to
> overprint. And more.
> 
> My point is, Corel gets no respect because too many talentless
> dickheads using it have foisted crap on prepress shops for too many
> years. However, it's the fault of the talentless dickheads, not
> CorelDraw.
> 
> Software doesn't *earn* my respect. Talented people *earn* my respect.
> 
> And I don't care what software those talented people use.

"It's impossible to make something foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious"--Lazarus Long

Irrespective of your experience, most of the professional print shops in 
the SF/Bay area use Photoshop or Illustrator or Indesign.  They usually 
point you to a Kinkos if you have something else to do any sort of 
conversion.

-- 
DeeDee, don't press that button!  DeeDee!  NO!  Dee...
 




 31 Posts in Topic:
Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
CoreyWhite <CoreyWhite  2007-06-26 19:09:27 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
CoreyWhite <CoreyWhite  2007-06-26 19:36:25 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
Jolly Roger <jollyroge  2007-06-26 17:33:57 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
Michael Vilain <vilain  2007-06-26 21:15:16 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
Jolly Roger <jollyroge  2007-06-27 09:42:22 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
jon.shutts@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-06-26 12:59:21 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
Eric P. <ericpNOSPAM06  2007-06-26 13:52:58 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
CoreyWhite <CoreyWhite  2007-06-26 20:19:07 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
John McWilliams <jpmcw  2007-06-26 13:40:27 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
Mani Deli <mani@[EMAIL  2007-06-26 16:31:34 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
Dagon Productions <dag  2007-06-26 14:08:08 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
CoreyWhite <CoreyWhite  2007-06-26 21:14:23 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
"Erik A. Mattila&quo  2007-06-26 15:10:32 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
CoreyWhite <CoreyWhite  2007-06-26 22:28:54 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
Jolly Roger <jollyroge  2007-06-26 21:18:47 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
"Erik A. Mattila&quo  2007-07-20 14:50:24 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
CoreyWhite <CoreyWhite  2007-06-26 23:02:37 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
Jolly Roger <jollyroge  2007-06-26 21:14:10 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
drdagon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-06-26 16:43:51 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
Jolly Roger <jollyroge  2007-06-26 21:16:41 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
Dave Balderstone <dave  2007-06-26 20:31:18 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
Michael Vilain <vilain  2007-06-26 21:18:04 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
"Erik A. Mattila&quo  2007-07-20 14:59:49 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
Dave Fritzinger <dfrit  2007-06-26 16:50:57 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
"Erik A. Mattila&quo  2007-07-20 14:30:50 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
CoreyWhite <CoreyWhite  2007-06-27 01:40:52 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
tacit <tacitr@[EMAIL P  2007-06-26 21:42:34 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
CoreyWhite <CoreyWhite  2007-06-27 01:47:59 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
Dave Balderstone <dave  2007-06-26 19:57:41 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
Dave Fritzinger <dfrit  2007-06-27 10:48:44 
Re: Best Mac Software For Graphic Design & Art.
Brignell and Raimes <n  2007-08-09 14:44:05 

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