In article <260620072031189269%dave@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Dave Balderstone <dave@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> In article <200706262116417987-jollyroger@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Jolly Roger
> <jollyroger@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > On 2007-06-26 18:43:51 -0500, drdagon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
> >
> > >> Corel? EEEWWW... You're kidding right? What a piece of crap!
> > >
> > > Which seems to be the opinion of most graphic artists I've met
> > > and many printshops I've dealt with.
> >
> > You're spot on. I worked in professional graphic arts and pre-press
in
> > print shops for 9 years. Corel gets no respect because it's crap, and
> > you have to *earn* respect from professionals who depend on making a
> > living using graphics software. Adobe has earned it, and raises the
> > bar every year.
>
> I've been in the graphics/prepress/publi****ng industry for nearly 30
> years. No, really. Thirty years. And that doesn't count hand setting
> type in Grade 9 graphics shop.
>
> I've seen brilliant work that ripped seamlessly done in CorelDraw. I've
> seen crap done in CorelDraw.
>
> I've seen brilliant work that ripped seamlessly done in FreeHand. I've
> seen crap done in FreeHand.
>
> I've seen brilliant work that ripped seamlessly done in Illustrator.
> I've seen crap done in Illustrator.
>
> I've seen brilliant work that ripped seamlessly done in InDesign. I've
> seen crap done in InDesign.
>
> I could tell you all kinds of stories, like...
>
> The time a designer upgraded Corel in the middle of the job and all the
> white type got set to overprint. $2500 worth of film had to rerun, and
> we had to fight him for payment.
>
> The time we ripped an Illustrator file for TWENTY-SEVEN HOURS, got a
> cyan plate, and it was wrong. Didn't get paid for that one.
>
> The designer I worked for who regularly built absolutely gorgeous
> Freehand files that nobody in the entire Vancouver BC area could rip to
> film.
>
> The Xpress file bounced out of my shop because the file contained three
> different blacks. 100K. 100C, 100M, 100Y, and 100C, 100M, 100Y, 100K.
> Type within 1/16th inch of the trim. Yellow type on black set to
> overprint. And more.
>
> My point is, Corel gets no respect because too many talentless
> dickheads using it have foisted crap on prepress shops for too many
> years. However, it's the fault of the talentless dickheads, not
> CorelDraw.
>
> Software doesn't *earn* my respect. Talented people *earn* my respect.
>
> And I don't care what software those talented people use.
"It's impossible to make something foolproof because fools are so
ingenious"--Lazarus Long
Irrespective of your experience, most of the professional print shops in
the SF/Bay area use Photoshop or Illustrator or Indesign. They usually
point you to a Kinkos if you have something else to do any sort of
conversion.
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