In article <ipo%g.80656$073.43248@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Bob Levine
<robjlevin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Helpful Harry wrote:
>
> > If one fool's answer to everything was not basically "don't use
> > 'RageMaker', but InDesign", then maybe I might have wanted to stay for
> > more than half-a-dozen messages and therefore try to find some
> > workaround for ONE newsgroup out of the 100+ I subscribe to not
wanting
> > quotes of previous messages.
>
> You're obviously one of the minions of PM users that are still upset
> that Adobe abandoned the program. Why you don't understand that it was
> Aldus that realized that new program was the only way to move ahead is
> mind bongling to me.
>
> If Adobe had called InDesign PM 8, 9, CS, or CS2 would you calling those
> who recommend an upgrade fools?
>
> If you took the time to look around the PM forums, you'd see that almost
> every post is answered by a FORMER PM user. I try to help, but the
> bottom line is that the answer is almost always that silly workarounds
> can be avoided by upgrading to InDesign.
All completely irrelevant.
If someone asks a question in a PageMaker forum then they want a
PageMaker answer, not simply some idiot that tells them just to buy
InDesign ... that's NOT helping.
> > An idiot like that in most newsgroups and forums would either be
> > killfiled, labelled a troll and / or banned. For example, if I went
> > into a Star Trek froum and answered questions with "Star Drek sux,
> > watch the new Battlestar Galactica instead."
>
> Completely different.
>
> For starters, the one post I remembered from you was in the InDesign
> forum. Remember, most ID users moved from Quark, not PM so the occassion
> Pagewrecker, RageMaker lines do pop up.
>
> We get the occassional post from from a diehard Quark user looking to
> stir up trouble and the get labeled as trolls, idiots and worse.
It's not completely different. When you're in forum you don't go around
calling the main topic of that forum by silly names ... if you don't
like the product, you stay out of the forum for it, otherwise you ARE a
troll (at best!).
Yes, I call it "Quack Xpress", but only in here. If I went into a Quark
forum I wouldn't use that them ... common decency, common sense, common
courtesy.
> > There's also no real reason that there can't be a InDesign and other
> > Adobe newsgroup in the Usenet listings, even Microsoft has lots of
> > them.
>
> They're already there. You just need to "play by the rules." Too much
> trouble for you? Then don't go. Just like restaurants. Most of them let
> you wear whatever you want. But once in a while you just have to put on
> a jacket and tie.
No. Adobe runs their own separate forums, not proper Usenet ones. It's
anyone's guess why, but probably is at least partly to do with them
having no control over Usenet.
Most of the other big names do run proper Usenet forums - even if they
are technically run from their own servers, they interface into the
Usent structure as well.
Helpful Harry
Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hard****ps ;o)
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