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I still keep track of this NG as well. I'm still not overly fond of the
forum method of getting information or help.
I'm still kicking the tires with LW 9.5. I know there's a 9.5.1 out in
beta but I don't feel like dealing with that particularly. Even so, I
immediately crashed it trying to use the new FiberFX with a nodally
applied weight map. It worked until I tried to make any adjustment,
then BooEEP, no Layout. Oh well, plenty of other features to get up to
speed with.
I too have recently been exploring other CAD type programs specifically
for set lighting previz applications, but for motion picture work (at
some point anyway). My union has a couple dozen fully enabled
educational versions of VectorWorks 2008 so I've been studying that past
few months. It's very powerful and has a lot of features that are
pretty slick, but in the final analysis I wasn't all that impressed with
their render engine. Creating fly-thrus in VW was painful too, to say
the least. I'm able to ex****t geometry & textures out to Lightwave
though. There's a bit of clean-up to do as the format creates tris
rather than quads and some surface attributes need tweeks. I had to run
a series of tests to figure out the scaling options so it would
translate accurately, but once I understood the options combo it all
worked out.
With LW 9.5 finally getting Photometric lights, along with some pretty
powerful tool additions from WTools3D with LWCad, I decided to hold off
making the VectorWorks purchase. VW tools for instrument management has
some quirks to work out which I'm sure will happen, but much of it
didn't seem that well suited anyway to how a film set is lit vs. a stage
or concert venue. LWCad handles doors & windows quite well, but doesn't
have the parametric options to customize. LWCad does handle roofs
better than VW on complex shapes, as well as the tiling feature.
Overall, I'm able to create much cleaner geometry in LW I feel, but you
don't have the 2D and do***ent management tools that you do in a true
CAD application.
I'd like to find some specific tools for playing around more with
photometric lights. I've gotten some of the ERCO files to play with but
didn't find any geometry files. I also found a test scene or two on one
of the forums to fiddle with.
What I haven't found is a way to edit or otherwise create an IES file.
I know it's a simple text file or spreadsheet file, but I haven't found
anywhere online that describes the format or variables. I suppose if I
was really ambitious I might find such a set of tools, but nothing
obvious came up on some basic searches.
Later guys,
M.
Mark Du****in wrote:
> David McCall wrote:
>> Not much happens here anymore.
>> Even the spamers don't bother with this site anymore.
>>
>> There still seem to be a few of us that check the site for messages
>> (Hi Mark :-)
>>
> Yep, I'm still here :)
> I check in about twice a month.
> And I agree that at least the spammers have mostly vanished, and for me,
> this makes me feel people will want to come here more when they don't
> have to wade through a ton of crap.
> But hey, us few, it's cool.
>> Verizon has dropped all binaries so I don't ever see that one anymore.
>>
>> I'm trying to learn AutoCAD for my theater work. It is going very
>> slowly.
>> I need to be more compatible with other people in the Biz, plus I
bought
>> some really neat software that is integrated into Acad that is designed
>> for theatrical lighting. Once you have your scene lit with the IES
>> lights
>> you can create all of your lighting cues within the software, or you
can
>> hook up the lighting console to the computer and create the show on the
>> console. In addition it produces all of the paperwork that list all
>> of the
>> circuits, channels, gel list etc. The catch is that you have to learn
>> Acad first :-(
>>
> Wow, that all DOES sound really cool though!
> Would love to see that in real action.
>> http://ldassistant.com/
>> I much prefer working in Lightwave and will still use it for
>> everything else.
>>
> And yeah, I'm really starting to get back into LW again after a very
> very long time away from it and am loving the new lighting types and
> like that.
> Still haven't bothered to look into the FiberFX stuff much at all,
> other then when it first came out way
> back in beta, but that was a long time back and it's far better now,
> so I need to look into that again soon.
> Trying to finish the beta with a certain other program though and
> thats been using up all my time.
>
> .............................md :)
>
>
>
>
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I'm
still not overly fond of the forum method of getting information or
help. </font><br>
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I'm still kicking the tires with LW 9.5. I know there's a 9.5.1 out
in
beta but I don't feel like dealing with that particularly. Even so,
I
immediately crashed it trying to use the new FiberFX with a nodally
applied weight map. It worked until I tried to make any adjustment,
then BooEEP, no Layout. Oh well, plenty of other features to get up
to
speed with.<br>
<br>
I too have recently been exploring other CAD type programs specifically
for set lighting previz applications, but for motion picture work (at
some point anyway). My union has a couple dozen fully enabled
educational versions of VectorWorks 2008 so I've been studying that
past few months. It's very powerful and has a lot of features that
are
pretty slick, but in the final analysis I wasn't all that impressed
with their render engine. Creating fly-thrus in VW was painful too,
to
say the least. I'm able to ex****t
geometry & textures out to Lightwave though. There's a bit of
clean-up to do as the format creates tris rather than quads and some
surface attributes need tweeks. I had to run a series of tests to
figure out the scaling options so it would translate accurately, but
once I understood the options combo it all worked out.<br>
<br>
With LW 9.5 finally getting Photometric lights, along with some pretty
powerful tool additions from WTools3D with LWCad, I decided to hold off
making the VectorWorks purchase. VW tools for instrument management
has some quirks to work out which I'm sure will happen, but much of it
didn't seem that well suited anyway to how a film set is lit vs. a
stage or concert venue. LWCad handles doors & windows quite
well,
but doesn't have the parametric options to customize. LWCad does
handle roofs better than VW on complex shapes, as well as the tiling
feature. Overall, I'm able to create much cleaner geometry in LW I
feel, but you don't have the 2D and do***ent management tools that you
do in a true CAD application. <br>
<br>
I'd like to find some specific tools for playing around more with
photometric lights. I've gotten some of the ERCO files to play with
but didn't find any geometry files. I also found a test scene or two
on one of the forums to fiddle with.<br>
<br>
What I haven't found is a way to edit or otherwise create an IES
file.
I know it's a simple text file or spreadsheet file, but I haven't found
anywhere online that describes the format or variables. I suppose if
I
was really ambitious I might find such a set of tools, but nothing
obvious came up on some basic searches.<br>
<br>
Later guys,<br>
<br>
M.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Mark Du****in wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:O2PMk.13548$xs1.4888@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" type="cite">David
McCall wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Not much happens here anymore.
<br>
Even the spamers don't bother with this site anymore.
<br>
<br>
There still seem to be a few of us that check the site for messages
<br>
(Hi Mark :-)
<br>
</blockquote>
Yep, I'm still here :)
<br>
I check in about twice a month.
<br>
And I agree that at least the spammers have mostly vanished, and for
me,
<br>
this makes me feel people will want to come here more when they don't
have to wade through a ton of crap.
<br>
But hey, us few, it's cool.
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Verizon has dropped all binaries so I don't
ever see that one anymore.
<br>
<br>
I'm trying to learn AutoCAD for my theater work. It is going very
slowly.
<br>
I need to be more compatible with other people in the Biz, plus I
bought
<br>
some really neat software that is integrated into Acad that is designed
<br>
for theatrical lighting. Once you have your scene lit with the IES
lights
<br>
you can create all of your lighting cues within the software, or you
can
<br>
hook up the lighting console to the computer and create the show on the
<br>
console. In addition it produces all of the paperwork that list all of
the
<br>
circuits, channels, gel list etc. The catch is that you have to learn
Acad first :-(
<br>
</blockquote>
Wow, that all DOES sound really cool though!
<br>
Would love to see that in real action.
<br>
<blockquote type="cite"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://ldassistant.com/">http://ldassistant.com/</a>
<br>
I much prefer working in Lightwave and will still use it for everything
else.
<br>
</blockquote>
And yeah, I'm really starting to get back into LW again after a very
<br>
very long time away from it and am loving the new lighting types and
like that.
<br>
Still haven't bothered to look into the FiberFX stuff much at all,
other then when it first came out way
<br>
back in beta, but that was a long time back and it's far better now, so
I need to look into that again soon.
<br>
Trying to finish the beta with a certain other program though and thats
been using up all my time.
<br>
<br>
..............................md :)
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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