I think a couple times Maxon re-released a previous version for $99
(download or single CD, electronic do***entation, minimal extras.) This
might be a good compromise.
Henry
I just got Vue 4 D'Espirt for $69 on just such an offer.
"Thom Kevin Gillespie" <thom@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Henry <henrytj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > I am no expert by any measure. I just dabble. I would love to work in
this
> > field, but I waited too long and at my age im sure no animation house
would
> > hire me. Anyway, this is what I have to say.
>
> > I downloaded several tryout and demo programs. Without manuals I was
able to
> > do the most with C4D just from intuition. I was unable to do anything
with
> > LW without do***entation.
>
> Same thing happened to me about 5 years ago. I was scheduled to teach a
> class with Animation Master and before the class began I noticed this
> Cinema 4D thing and opened it and realized I could do more with this
> program with out do***entation than I could with the thing I knew how to
> use. When I got back to IU I contacted Maxon and they gave us a lab
price
> of 50 seats for $500 so I quickly canceled formZ which I was also using
> and we haven't looked back since.
>
> > Anyway, I found C4D to be much easier than other software to start
making
> > things happen. If I had a choice of software to teach for 3D it would
be
> > C4D. Its not the most powerful, but for a non-career path single
course
in
> > 3D, I think it would be an ideal choice. Especially if Maxon dropped
the
> > academic price down again to what it was a couple years ago.
>
> The ed pricing used to be $195 and when it was 2/3 of my class bought
> legal copies which is not normal in the time of Kazza and BitTorrent.
They
> have now raised the price to $295 and almost no one bought the program
the
> past 2 years. I call them on a regular basis and tell them the price it
> too high but Maxon does not listen well. At one point last fall the ed
> pricing on Maya Unlimited was $237 which 'all' my students pointed out
to
> me. I also told them this but again they don't seem to realize that Maya
> has now come down and is intent on seriously playing in the ed market.
We
> have Maya and are looking more and more into switching from C4D to Maya
> for the beginning cl***** just based upon price. The interface to C4D is
> the best on the market and version 9 is right there with Maya in terms
of
> cinematics even though their render engine is slow.
>
> The other really big area which will hurt C4D is that is probably the
> worst 3D tool on the market in terms of games and machinima. You can not
> believe the hops we have to go thu to 'attempt' to get a rig into Torque
> or something and then it never gets completely in: textures, lights,
> bones, etc.
>
> Still I love C4D but I'm close to pulling the trigger on switching
Indiana
> University to Maya. Maxon may be winning in the commercial market but
they
> are close to losing in the ed market which is where it all begins even
for
> the 'old' guys who design houses will hire if they are as good as the
> youngsters. 8-)
>
> --Thom
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