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Re: Humble Novice Seeks Veteran Advice: C4D & Character Animation

by Thom Kevin Gillespie <thom@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 4, 2005 at 12:01 AM

Henry <henrytj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> I am no expert by any measure. I just dabble. I would love to work in
this
> field, but I waited too long and at my age im sure no animation house
would
> hire me. Anyway, this is what I have to say.

> I downloaded several tryout and demo programs. Without manuals I was
able to
> do the most with C4D just from intuition. I was unable to do anything
with
> LW without do***entation. 

Same thing happened to me about 5 years ago. I was scheduled to teach a 
class with Animation Master and before the class began I noticed this 
Cinema 4D thing and opened it and realized I could do more with this 
program with out do***entation than I could with the thing I knew how to 
use. When I got back to IU I contacted Maxon and they gave us a lab price 
of 50 seats for $500 so I quickly canceled formZ which I was also using 
and we haven't looked back since.

> Anyway, I found C4D to be much easier than other software to start
making
> things happen. If I had a choice of software to teach for 3D it would be
> C4D. Its not the most powerful, but for a non-career path single course
in
> 3D, I think it would be an ideal choice. Especially if Maxon dropped the
> academic price down again to what it was a couple years ago.

The ed pricing used to be $195 and when it was 2/3 of my class bought 
legal copies which is not normal in the time of Kazza and BitTorrent. They

have now raised the price to $295 and almost no one bought the program the

past 2 years. I call them on a regular basis and tell them the price it 
too high but Maxon does not listen well. At one point last fall the ed 
pricing on Maya Unlimited was $237 which 'all' my students pointed out to 
me. I also told them this but again they don't seem to realize that Maya 
has now come down and is intent on seriously playing in the ed market. We 
have Maya and are looking more and more into switching from C4D to Maya 
for the beginning cl***** just based upon price. The interface to C4D is 
the best on the market and version 9 is right there with Maya in terms of 
cinematics even though their render engine is slow.

The other really big area which will hurt C4D is that is probably the 
worst 3D tool on the market in terms of games and machinima. You can not 
believe the hops we have to go thu to 'attempt' to get a rig into Torque 
or something and then it never gets completely in: textures, lights, 
bones, etc.

Still I love C4D but I'm close to pulling the trigger on switching Indiana

University to Maya. Maxon may be winning in the commercial market but they

are close to losing in the ed market which is where it all begins even for

the 'old' guys who design houses will hire if they are as good as the 
youngsters. 8-)

--Thom

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 9 Posts in Topic:
Humble Novice Seeks Veteran Advice: C4D & Character Animation
alexs <alexSPAMs@[EMAI  2005-05-30 10:09:37 
Re: Humble Novice Seeks Veteran Advice: C4D & Character Animatio
"Glenn" <ric  2005-05-31 03:28:03 
Re: Humble Novice Seeks Veteran Advice: C4D & Character Animatio
Michael Hare <mphare@[  2005-06-05 21:32:28 
Re: Humble Novice Seeks Veteran Advice: C4D & Character Animatio
"Brown Crow" &l  2005-06-01 10:06:36 
Re: Humble Novice Seeks Veteran Advice: C4D & Character Animatio
"Henry" <hen  2005-06-03 17:39:09 
Re: Humble Novice Seeks Veteran Advice: C4D & Character Animatio
Thom Kevin Gillespie <  2005-06-04 00:01:05 
Re: Humble Novice Seeks Veteran Advice: C4D & Character Animatio
"Henry" <hen  2005-06-04 07:29:01 
Re: Humble Novice Seeks Veteran Advice: C4D & Character Animatio
"Brown Crow" &l  2005-06-04 11:20:09 
Re: Humble Novice Seeks Veteran Advice: C4D & Character Animatio
Thom Kevin Gillespie <  2005-06-04 22:57:54 

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