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Re: Creating outlines from small font sizes in illustrator eps files

by Zohrabian21@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jun 24, 2008 at 12:21 PM

On Jun 24, 1:18=A0pm, puzzle <nepisemM...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:34:01 -0700 (PDT), Zohrabia...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> >On Jun 24, 3:05=A0am, puzzle <nepisemM...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> Why text looks "Fatter" when converted to outlines:
>
> >> from:http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3bbafc26/0
>
> >> "Thomas Phinney, Program Manager Fonts & Core Technologies from Adobe
> >> Systems tell about why the text fattens when you convert to outlines.
>
> >> TWO things happen when you outline fonts:
> >> - loss of hinting
> >> - change in fill algorithm
>
> >> The loss of hinting makes certain features potentially inconsistent.
> >> For example, letter strokes that you expect to be the same width
might
> >> turn out to be different widths depending on how they fall on the
grid
> >> of the output device. Slight differences can get magnified
> >> unexpectedly, like rounded letters going below the baseline. This
> >> happens because the information that makes the outlines round
> >> consistently to the pixel grid has been lost.
>
> >> The change in the fill algorithm combines with the lack of hinting to
> >> make the letters look fatter. Font rasterizing uses a fill algorithm
> >> that turns on a pixel only when the center of the pixel is within the
> >> glyph outline (center-scan). Graphics rasterizing uses a fill
> >> algorithm that turns on a pixel when any part of the pixel is within
> >> the graphic outline (overscan). Given that the outline is no longer
> >> being rounded to pixel boundaries at key points, the rendering will
> >> generally be at least one pixel thicker, occasionally two.
>
> >> Of course, how much difference this makes depends on the size and
> >> style of the type, and especially on the resolution of the output
> >> device. At 2400 dpi with typical text sizes, the effect is pretty
> >> subtle. At 600 dpi with 6 point text, the effect is quite obvious."
>
> >> puzzle
> >> cetirib...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >>
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> >> My Co-worker is trying to create outlines of a map file to send to
> >> print. the font sizes are very small so when creating to outlines,
> >> the fonts and lines in the maps appear to be way to bold to read when
> >> printed.
> >> How do we create outlines and still have it come out crisp, clean and
> >> legible?
>
> >> thanks,
> >> Nora
> >>
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> >Thanks.
>
> >So how would we change things on our end so that the printing place
> >prints our maps without that bold look? check the resolution?
>
> Possible solutions:
>
> The first: Save pdf /eps files with embedding fonts
> (do not create outlines in Illustrator).
>
> The second: Object \ Flatten Transparency...
> then "Convert all text to outlines".
> You may change resolution up to 9600 ppi there.
>
> The third and im****tant: your printer would be able to print at higher
> resolutions (over 300 dpi).
> For small fonts I would like 600 or more dpi.
>
> ps. execuse me on my poor english.
> thanks
>
> puzzle
> cetirib...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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great thanks.
 




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Creating outlines from small font sizes in illustrator eps files
Zohrabian21@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-23 09:07:21 
Re: Creating outlines from small font sizes in illustrator eps f
Graham Waiffers <Never  2008-06-23 19:49:48 
Re: Creating outlines from small font sizes in illustrator eps f
steggy <steggy@[EMAIL   2008-06-23 23:12:31 
Re: Creating outlines from small font sizes in illustrator eps f
puzzle <nepisemMAIL@[E  2008-06-24 09:05:32 
Re: Creating outlines from small font sizes in illustrator eps f
Zohrabian21@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-24 06:34:01 
Re: Creating outlines from small font sizes in illustrator eps f
puzzle <nepisemMAIL@[E  2008-06-24 19:18:18 
Re: Creating outlines from small font sizes in illustrator eps f
Zohrabian21@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-24 12:21:11 

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