Re: does capitalism like philosophy?

On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 06:37:35 -0700, calvin wrote:

> On Jul 5, 9:32 am, tg <tgdenn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On Jul 5, 8:46 am, calvin <cri...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> > On Jul 5, 8:22 am, tg <tgdenn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> > > On Jul 4, 1:16 pm, calvin <cri...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> > > > On Jul 4, 1:00 pm, tg <tgdenn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > ... Free markets only exist when
>> > > > > there is no scarcity of resources, and it is difficult for
capitalism
>> > > > > to exist without that scarcity.
>>
>> > > > Yes, it's hard to sell a box of sand at the beach,
>> > > > but what's your point?
>>
>> > > My point, as usual, is to point out what's propaganda and what's
real.
>>
>> > > You can turn beach sand into computer chips and sell those. Then
there
>> > > is a market that optimizes utility. But if someone expends labor to
>> > > prevent you from getting the sand (that is, he 'owns' the sand),
that
>> > > labor contributes nothing to the total wealth.
>>
>> > So you're against owner****p.  That's the way things are going.
>> > I hope you enjoy your Marxist utopia.
>>
>> From my statement that you can turn beach sand into chips and sell
>> them you conclude that I am against owner****p? How can you sell the
>> chips if you don't own them?
>> Do all you fundatarians have a reading problem?
> 
> Don't be a fool.  Review your own statement:
> 
> "But if someone expends labor to
> prevent you from getting the sand (that is, he 'owns' the sand), that
> labor contributes nothing to the total wealth."

This statement is in error because labor is expended in keeping people out
of the way so the entrepreneur can harvest the sand.  But the point is
that labor is expended in that policing process.  There is a cost to land
allocation, i.e. the division and specialization of land.  The costs are
minimal and they are further minimized by the specialization of labor and
the return to scale inherent in assigning tenant rights enforcement to
government. The _USE_ of the land does not require owner****p of the land.
And unused land should not be restricted from use and is then cost free.
Such land is free for anyone to bid for its use and to pay all excluded
others for the rights of exclusive use.


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